????? ????? ??????? ???????? ??????? ??? ? ??????? ?????? ????? ????? ?????? ?????? ???? ????? ??????? ? ????? ???.[8] Lamentation of Swans – A Journey To Silence (2013), Ali's fourth album, can be a joint hard work with her spouse Loga Ramin Torkian that began in 2009 and explores the personal spaces they had to carve out for them selves to flee